# OCTYN vs AY Automate

Both build systems and keep them running after launch. AY Automate starts with a free discovery call, prices by project, and embeds an engineer in your team, building mostly on n8n, Make and Zapier. OCTYN starts with a paid mapping, fixes one price in writing, and builds the system for your company alone.

## Side by side

| | OCTYN | AY Automate |
| --- | --- | --- |
| How it describes itself | An intelligent systems firm. Each system is custom-built for one company, then run and kept current by OCTYN. | "Scale Your Business 10X without hiring more staff" |
| How it starts | A paid mapping of the operation, the Consult, which sets the scope and measures a baseline. | "Most engagements start with a free 30-minute discovery call to understand your needs." |
| How it is priced | One fixed price, in writing, after the Consult; then a monthly fee to run it. | Per project, with amounts on its site |
| After launch | OCTYN runs it and keeps it current, and re-sets it when the company changes. | "Yes. Every client gets post-launch support included. Most teams stay with us on a monthly retainer because AI products need iteration after launch." |
| Who owns it | Your data, specs, configuration and code. | Not stated on its site |
| Who it is for | An established company whose team does the same work by hand every week. | "Industries we serve include marketing agencies, e-commerce, consulting firms, legal services, financial services, SaaS companies, logistics, and professional services." |
| What it is built on | Built for that one company, on its own accounts or infrastructure where the work calls for it. | "We're platform-agnostic but specialize in: n8n, Make.com, and Zapier for workflow automation; OpenAI, Anthropic Claude, and Google Gemini for AI models" |
| How the work is staffed | The people who map the system build it and run it. | "A forward deployed engineer embeds inside your team and writes production code on top of your systems, instead of advising from the outside." |

## Why OCTYN over AY Automate

- What the first step produces. AY Automate starts with a free 30-minute discovery call. OCTYN’s Consult is paid, and it ends with a map of the work, a measured baseline and one fixed price.
- What it is built on. AY Automate specializes in n8n, Make and Zapier. OCTYN builds each system for one company, so no step depends on a workflow vendor’s limits or per-run pricing.
- Who holds the work. AY Automate places an engineer inside your team. OCTYN’s people map, build and run the system themselves.
- Who owns it. Under OCTYN’s engagement terms, your data, specs, configuration and system code are yours, with the documentation to run it yourself. AY Automate’s site does not say who owns what it builds.

## Related

- [Every firm at a glance](https://octyn.co/compare/firms)
- [The Consult](https://octyn.co/consult)

Canonical: https://octyn.co/compare/firms/ay-automate